How to renew expired Residency visa. Brazilian child.
Finally I have got my visit visa to brazil approved. Can someone guide me now on process how to renew my expired Brazilian permanent residency.
note: my child is Brazilian national. My Permanent Residency expired due to not entering brazil for more than 2 years. During covid i couldnt travel and later my visit visa kept on getting rejected by the embassy.
i can travel to Brazil now on visit visa. Does my Brazilian child has to travel with me in person to brazil.
03/22/25 @n_ali. Congratulations on obtaining your visa.
You will need the list of documents detailed in the first post on this thread:
/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1058676
and to follow the instructions on the Polícia Federal site referenced in the post and repeated here:
As part of the process you will have to provide an address in Brazil, and to make a legally binding declaration that your child lives in Brazil. So you would be wise to have your child with you in Brazil, since the natural question on the part of the PF would be "Where is your child now?", and lying to the PF is never a good idea.
@abthree
Thank you very much for your usual support. I will follow the instructions and will visit Brazil to renew my residency. Thanks again
03/22/25 @abthree
Thank you very much for your usual support. I will follow the instructions and will visit Brazil to renew my residency. Thanks again - @n_ali
Best of luck to you!
I have Permanent Residency via my daughter also. I have not left Brazil since then. My humble advice is to be careful in leaving the country etc. In the USA there are two big cases with American Permanent Residents who left the country or were potentially deported because of being in violation of their Permanent Residency. Be careful in sticking to the rules, they can get tricky, and it is not easy to get them back.
Roddie in Retirement🕵
@roddiesho
Hello my friend I’m in the same situation, I was a permanent resident in Brasil in DF Brasilia 70s,80s,90s , I have a daughter she’s already an adult and also USA citizen , what do you mean by is tricky? Or difficult? To “Renovar a carteira de Permanente” ? Or maybe travel as a retired?
thanks
@Hugodc2000 I think you are on the right path by following @abthree's advice.
If I understand correctly, I would also add that just in case I would book a return trip to the USA before you go. It may be a few dollars if you don`t use it but basically you are entering Brazil with a "Visit Visa?". You are telling the Customs Agent that in that Visit amount of time you will complete your Permanent Residency Visa. Risky.
I live in Northeastern Brazil with my wife and 98-year-old mother because my daughter was instrumental in having me awarded the Brazilian Permanent Residency. As the oldest of two sons for my Brazilian mother (not my natural mother) I have vowed not to leave her side as she spends her golden years here quite comfortably.
It is almost a moot point, but I am very, very plugged into what is going on in my former DC suburbs and the USA. This is not a time to travel internationally if you can hold it off. They are deporting or not admitting visa holders every week. No matter what the rules are. This is mainly in the USA. I know i sound pessimistic, but there is a difference between reading about it and having it happen to you in real live. i have been detained by Brazilian Authorities as I came through Sao Paulo Customs because my Permanent Visa was "in progress", even though I had ALL my documents with me. This was in Brazil even before the current new USA Administration. Basically, I am hearing about people detained, deported etc. every day. Not the best time.
Just be prepared.
Roddie In Retirement🕵
04/01/25 This is not a time to travel internationally if you can hold it off. They are deporting or not admitting visa holders every week. No matter what the rules are. This is mainly in the USA. Just be prepared.Roddie In Retirement🕵 - @roddiesho
I don't think that you're being alarmist or unrealistic, or if you are, then so am I. My husband renewed his visa for the US in 2024 (we were glad that he could do it before the election) and he has a ten year record of entering and leaving without ever overstaying. We were thinking of going back for a visit this year, but that plan's on indefinite hold now.
I haven't heard of Immigration denying entry to a US citizen, though -- yet!
American Permanent Residents
Roddie in Retirement🕵 - @roddiesho
Apr 1, 2025
I think that this refers to US Green Card holders. Yes, for Green Card holders there are restrictions on how long you can leave the US without losing your residency. There are exceptions - like US overseas assignment but those should be disclosed to the right authority - Department of State?
I think that the main issue here with US Green Card holders inside or outside the US is that what constitute the rights of US Green Card holders is kinda being politicized.
@abthree is alluding to, the best approach in this case is for US Green Card holders to apply for and achieve US citizenship as soon as possible as the rights of US Citizens are much defined and protected.
I am not sure that this will be the case for Brazil - but I intend to apply for Brazil citizenship as soon as I am able to.
Pablo888, I wholeheartedly agree. I always advise(d) green card holders to get citizenship ASAP. This included my wife. Compared to Brazil it’s a relatively easy process. Then you can travel freely as a US Citizen without counting your days outside the USA.
Side note: If you don’t bend or break rules of ANY country, your life will be worry free.
@abthree I will say you were great during my Immigration Journey and my detention at Sao Paulo airport. I am trying to leave my worries behind until I finish my YouTube channel, however EVERYTHING is tied to my former MD. address. There is a number of challenges that I may need to fly to the USA for and I am not sure how it will work out.
1). I have to renew my PayPal card etc. which expires on 1/27, and it has my MD. address.
2). My MD. Driver's License expires on 6/27, so I need to be Fluent in Portuguese and get the Brazilian license.
3). When I go to Brown University in R.I. I need to stop by the SSA office and change my address to Brazil.
It's been nice knowing you all. Write to me in jail
Roddie in Retirement🕵
@Pablo888 Your right, but now it is not whats in the manual, but whats in your Social Media. So your Green Card documents can be perfect, but if you said something on social media that they did not like, they are literally taking you off the street and deporting you.
Rumeysa Ozturk
Federal officers detained 30-year-old Turkish student Rumeysa Ozturk on Tuesday as she walked along a street in suburban Boston. A senior Department of Homeland Security spokesperson said without providing evidence that an investigation found Ozturk, a doctoral student at Tufts University, “engaged in activities in support of Hamas," which is also a U.S.-designated terrorist group.
Yunseo Chung
Yunseo Chung is a Columbia student and lawful U.S. resident who moved to America from Korea as a child. Chung attended and was arrested at a sit-in this month at nearby Barnard College protesting the expulsion of students who participated in pro-Palestinian activism.
Badar Khan Suri
Badar Khan Suri, a Georgetown scholar from India, was arrested outside his Virginia home and detained by masked Homeland Security agents on allegations that he spread Hamas propaganda. Suri’s attorney wrote in a court filing that he was targeted because of his social media posts and his wife’s “identity as a Palestinian and her constitutionally protected speech.” Suri holds a visa authorizing him to be in the U.S. as a visiting scholar, and his wife is a U.S. citizen, according to court documents.
Leqaa Kordia
Leqaa Kordia, a resident of Newark, New Jersey, was detained and accused of failing to leave the U.S. after her student visa expired. Federal authorities said Kordia is a Palestinian from the West Bank and that she was arrested at or near Columbia during pro-Palestinian protests. Columbia has said it has no record of her being a student there.
Kordia is being held in an immigration detention center in Alvarado, Texas, according to a government database.
There is much, much more but I am running out of room.
Roddie in Retirement🕵
@roddieshow. I think you would be happier in life if you yanked the plug on watching news and following social media. For the record, I never had a Facebook, Instagram, TikTok or any social media account. I don’t own a Television. I never listen to radio. I don’t read any news on the internet unless I search for something specific. I pulled the plug on News and Television about 7 years ago. I’ve been very content since then. I have over 2000 pre 1960 movies so if I want entertainment I will watch one occasionally. Take the time you spend absorbing the bad vibes and use them for self fulfillment. I think you may find you’ll be much happier in life.
@bepmoht to each their own. Don't know why you assume that being very well-informed keeps someone from being Happy. I have NEVER been happier in ALL my life😎
Roddie in Retirement🕵
@roddiesho
Yes, well I guess this is a case of where “One man’s medicine, is another one’s poison.”
😁
@bepmoht I won't go into detail about how this is the Happiest Time of my life. I just want to add that with a long career in radio, one of my colleagues is now a host of the NBC4 morning show in the DMV. He actually delivers most of the news I posted. I have the pleasure of watching him here in Brazil (thank you internet). A lot of the information I relayed in the previous post was delivered by him. He is just recovering from Cancer, and I asked him if he was Happy knowing that he was actually the one delivering this news. He told me without question he was very Happy.
I spoke to my wife of over 25 years who I live with, as well as my 98year old Brazilian mother and SIMBA, about this because I could not for the life of me understand how a complete stranger was presumptuous enough to say I was or was not Happy. She suggested that I take a break from .Com.
As much as I enjoy assisting other s or soon to be s this one was so out of left field and so challenging that I will take her advice. Of course this was on April Fool's Day, so it may have been a joke, but I will be gone for at least April. I have found great comfort in the advice of @abthree, @Pablo888, @alan279 and many others. I am sure they can provide great information to `s. Please don`t insult them too.
Roddie in Retirement🕵
04/02/25 I am not sure that this will be the case for Brazil - but I intend to apply for Brazil citizenship as soon as I am able to. - @Pablo888
Becoming a Brazilian citizen is easy: once a foreign resident can satisfy the language requirement, s/he just has to live here long enough and refresh the documents (particularly background checks) that were required for the CRNM. For foreigners who live here continuously for fifteen years, even the language requirement goes away.
There are some pitfalls, but they're not hard to avoid with due care:
- Brazil allows multiple citizenships, but make sure that your country or origin (or other countries of citizenship) does as well: you don't want to lose a nationality accidently by being naturalized here;
- If Brazil has a tax treaty (income tax, not usually Social Security or equivalent) with your other country/countries of citizenship, make sure that you won't lose any treaty benefits by becoming a Brazilian;
- Make sure that ALL of your identity documents match. The sooner you do this, the better. If you haven't already, see the thread /forum/viewtopic.php?id=1077582 for the difficulties I had in getting my new form Identity Card (CIN) because of discrepancies in my mother's middle name (!) on some documents;
- When you're naturalized, you'll be told that you need to inform the Electoral Court to get your Voter ID, the military (for an exemption if you're male and under 40), and your municipal government to get your Identity Card. This is true, but the list is not complete: the Justice Ministry will not inform any other agency about your naturalization, so you'll have to do it yourself, including the Receita Federal, DETRAN, and any other agency that affects your life. Otherwise, they'll continue to show you as "Estrangeiro".
- You will NOT be issued a "Certidão Positivo de Naturalização" automatically, but you can request one online from the Justice Ministry, and definitely should. It makes the notifications above easier.
Brazil puts zero pressure on a permanent resident to become a citizen, and Brazil's extreme reluctance to extradite anyone that formerly made it such a haven for white collar criminals on the lam still applies to residents and citizens alike (except for drug-related crimes), but it's an uncertain world. It's not a bad idea to have another passport, and Brazil's is reasonably strong.
- can someone recommend immigration lawyers from florianopolis?
- would it be beneficial to hire a legal professional for my case.
note: I am coming on VIVIS visa. My child has Brazilian citizenship. I want to apply for permanent residency and later transfer to citizenship.
@roddiesho
I am USA citizen not a permanent resident in USA I just explained about the 2 options that I have since I was a permanent resident in Brasil I lost since been more than 2 years outside Brasil,
I think I will go to Retirement in Brasil documentation otherwise I will get there na policia federal no DF and asked about my permanent resident there, thanks
04/09/25 can someone recommend immigration lawyers from florianopolis?
would it be beneficial to hire a legal professional for my case.
note: I am coming on VIVIS visa. My child has Brazilian citizenship. I want to apply for permanent residency and later transfer to citizenship. - @n_ali
Immigration lawyers, especially bilingual ones, can be hard to find in Brazil, particularly in the smaller capitals -- in other words, anywhere that isn't Brasília, São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, or maybe Salvador or Belo Horizonte. Unless members have personal recommendations, you may need to find a general attorney that you feel comfortable with to help you.
The site jusbrasil.com.br can let you search for attorneys by specialty and location.
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