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Hello,

I am currently enrolled in FAAP's extensive course at its Higienópolis campus in São Paulo. I have experience with online courses and have also attended "Portugues por Estrangeiros" at Mackenzie University, which is also in Higienópolis but closer to the Metro. Without a doubt, FAAP has provided the best learning experience among all the options I've explored.

Firstly, the in-class instruction at FAAP stands out with significantly more hours compared to other options—3 hours per day, 5 days a week. In contrast, Mackenzie offers only 3 hours per week, covering in 12 weeks what takes two full academic semesters at Mackenzie.

Moreover, the level of instruction at FAAP is of a higher caliber. While there are numerous Portuguese teachers available, especially online, FAAP's instructors are on par with those you would find in universities in Canada, Europe, or the US.

In terms of practical considerations, Mackenzie employs a somewhat inconvenient payment method, billing through the Prefeitura in five installments. On one occasion, I faced challenges when a bill wouldn't process, leading to a tedious process of providing my information again and engaging in several back-and-forths before the issue was resolved. In contrast, FAAP allows for a straightforward payment with options like credit card, PIX, or money. Furthermore, FAAP includes the cost of textbooks in its tuition, unlike Mackenzie where it is an additional expense.

From a content perspective, FAAP covers more material in each section, presents the curriculum in a well-organized manner, and assigns a greater amount of homework compared to Mackenzie or the online instruction I received.

Lastly, I encountered several class cancellations at Mackenzie during Feriados that were not compensated for. FAAP, on the other hand, adheres to its schedule without such interruptions. Given the significant difference in instructional hours, this consistency makes a substantial impact.

In conclusion, I wholeheartedly recommend FAAP for those serious about achieving fluency in Portuguese. The level of service and curriculum quality at FAAP surpass the other options mentioned above. Best of luck on your language-learning journey!

@duzzimenino

Thank you for your reply it means a lot. However I was looking for intensive course. On their site I saw it's starting from April 1 which have 4 levels each level have 100 hrs.

Its online on zoom call for 2 hrs which is from 7-9 pm Mondays to Thursdays which is perfect for me with working.

I am just concerned if their certificate will work for naturalization.

However I will be visiting the campus in this week with my wife.

Thank you for your advice its very helpful

02/18/24 I am just concerned if their certificate will work for naturalization.
However I will be visiting the campus in this week with my wife.
Thank you for your advice its very helpful     

    -@Shahbaz Shaikh786

It's great that you're going to have a face to face discussion with them.  That's exactly the right question to ask:  whether their certificate will be accepted by the Polícia Federal as sufficient proof of the "capacidade de comunicação em português" demanded for naturalization, with no further testing or credentials required. 

Best of luck.  Please let us know the results.

@abthree

For sure I will pass the information it's one good option for all which is quite confusing or not been discussed much.

    I am searching a lot about the naturalization and Portuguese proficiency certificate as on the Brazil government site one point says..


( Completion of a higher education or postgraduate course, held at a Brazilian educational institution, accredited by the Ministry of Education )



So recently i learned about...

FAAP São Paulo | Rua Alagoas, 903 - Higienópolis. CEP 01242-902.

Ribeirão Preto | Rua Marcelo Sarti, 100 - Jardim California. CEP 14026-290.



So they have this intensive online course and after complication they gonna certify us...

The exact words they have mentioned on the site..



( Get a certificate after the course:

The Certificate of Achievement is issued by FAAP, an Institution of Higher Education recognized by the Ministry of Education (MEC), for learning CEFR A1 to C1.)



Any suggestions... Pls help I am a bit confused.

What you think about this... However very soon I am gonna visit the campus.
   

    -@Shahbaz Shaikh786

Have you earned a degree abroad?  if so, it needs to be validade through the MEC. 

If it is not coming from North America, or Europe, it is probably wortless paper. Go back to school to study your subject of choice. 

02/18/24 Have you earned a degree abroad?  if so, it needs to be validade through the MEC. 
   

    -@sprealestatebroker

They're not asking about how to validate a foreign degree.  They're looking for a way other than CelpeBras to prove Portuguese proficiency for naturalization.

@duzzimenino what kind of resources do they use at FAAP?  i am interested in do their class but im already close to fluent…so i dont want it to he redundant for me since 3000R is a lot of money here.  But i do need to tighten my speaking up considerably.

Would you be willing to message me in private and give me the 411?

@abthree GOOD NEWS FOR ALL EXPATS LOOKING FOR NATURALIZATION...

I visited the FAAP UNIVERSITY CAMPUS and the certificate they provide with a letter of us being present there for examination is valid for NATURALIZATION.

So there are 3 types of course and the cheapest one is for 3150. Its online intensive Portuguese course. I will be going for that and it's starting from April 1 and will finish on may 17. It's all online and from 7-9PM every Monday to Friday. There will be 4 levels after every level and online test. And once you finish the course they will let you know if you are prepared or need to practice more to give the test at university.

Only after completing the course and giving the test at the university they will give you the certificate and letter that you were there for the test. Which is acceptable by federal police for naturalization as the university is accredited by MEC.

I will be registering the course online and then pay the fees.

There is option to pay the fees in 4 installments but the payment only has to be through brazilian credit card...

If any one need more information. They have send me the pdf file with all the details. Just text me and I will share it with you.

Thanks and all the best for all

    02/18/24 Have you earned a degree abroad?  if so, it needs to be validade through the MEC.         -@sprealestatebroker

They're not asking about how to validate a foreign degree.  They're looking for a way other than CelpeBras to prove Portuguese proficiency for naturalization.
   

    -@abthree
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Got it.  If they here, they need to take up schooling,  There, no clue. Diploma Mill on them.  That's what Brazilians do anyways. 

@HighVoltage1045 I sent you a DM. On the issue of proficiency and not wanting to be redundant, they will give you a proficiency test.

  02/26/24  @duzzimenino what kind of resources do they use at FAAP?  i am interested in do their class but im already close to fluent…so i dont want it to he redundant for me since 3000R is a lot of money here.  But i do need to tighten my speaking up considerably.
Would you be willing to message me in private and give me the 411?
   

    -@HighVoltage1045

The Portuguese proficiency requirement for naturalization is equally weighted between speaking ability and writing ability, so you shouldn't have to worry about redundancy if you only have speaking fluency.  If you're speaking and writing ability are both strong, you might want to save the money and just take CelpeBras.

Regarding the online portuguese course from FAAP, how is the exam conducted? Is the online version is also approved for the  naturalization ?

Just to confirm, for the online course also, at the end there will be an on-site exam. Is my understanding correct?

@gadil72929 there will be on-site exam after completion of the course. They will give a letter "it's like confirmation of your existence there" with the certificate and it is approved for the naturalization.

After completion of the course the level I will be certified with is A2 or B1 is it acceptable as per them it is, however they don't guarantee it. Saying depends on polícia federal

Hello everyone,

First of all thank you to everyone for all the help and all the best for the ones in process.

I want to share my experience as today 20/01/2025 my process for naturalization has reached analyse MJSP.

MY RNM was completing 1 year on November 1 2024, but I applied for naturalization on 28 August as I was completing 1 year in Brazil in August. Counting the 3 months validity of police clearance certificate, I took my chances and it paid of well.

Also I got my Portuguese fluency certificate level A2 from FAAP UNIVERSITY. There were a lot of doubts about that but it worked too.

So all the best guys and if you need any information don't hesitate to ask.

@Shahbaz Shaikh786

Hello! Thanks for this. It’s exactly what I was looking for. I see that there are four levels. Through which level did you take their courses?

Level 1 and got certificate for A2 COMPLETION

Also I got my Portuguese fluency certificate level A2 from FAAP UNIVERSITY. There were a lot of doubts about that but it worked too.

So all the best guys and if you need any information don't hesitate to ask. - @Shahbaz Shaikh786

March 3, 2025

Congratulations on getting your citizenship.

I have also completed FAAP Level A1 and A2 online. 

I know someone who has completed Level A1 online but in order to count for the PF, you have to take the test in person.  This person took everything online including the test and then she flew to the FAAP SP campus and did the written test there.

If you are planning on taking the course online, you also have the option of using the course for citizenship purposes but please schedule and attend this in-person test.

@Shahbaz Shaikh786

Were you visited at home by the PF?

Not yet!!! I emailed 2 IDs I found on their site. But no replies it's been 45 days now and my process is on MJSP analysis

Not yet!!! I emailed 2 IDs I found on their site. But no replies it's been 45 days now and my process is on MJSP analysis - @Shahbaz Shaikh786

If you applied for naturalization before reaching 1 year on your RNM card, and did you have a fingerprint appointment with policia federal yet?

If not, and your case is already with MSJP without a biometric appointment and home visit from policia federal, then it's not a good news for you. Sorry to be a bearer of bad news. I hope I'm wrong though.

@stevewaugh786

It was strange to me also.

Hello everyone! what kind of documents are required for naturalization and which document is to be translated in Portuguese language. Where can I get police clearance certificate. Please let me know, thanks!

03/10/25 Hello everyone! what kind of documents are required for naturalization and which document is to be translated in Portuguese language. Where can I get police clearance certificate. Please let me know, thanks! - @Janaan1

Please see my response in Post #27 of this thread:

/forum/viewtopic.p … 29#6031198

Mar 12,  2025

Another question for the experts... how long is the CELPE-BRAS certificate valid for?

I have already taken the A1 and A2 courses at FAAP -  very useful.  And I am planning to take another one when it is available and then will fly to SP to take the in person test to get the certificate.

My original intention was to learn Portuguese.  Having a way to fulfill the CELPE-BRAS requirement is just a bonus.  Unless the certificate has an expiry date.

Anyone has any experience with that?

03/12/25 My original intention was to learn Portuguese. Having a way to fulfill the CELPE-BRAS requirement is just a bonus. Unless the certificate has an expiry date.

Anyone has any experience with that? - @Pablo888

There's no expiration date on the certificate.

@Shahbaz Shaikh786

My process is completed today🥳🥳

In 4 months time the analysis MJSP got done.

So it is possible to put application 1 month before you complete your 1 year in Brazil and also it can get done without biometrics, as I guess they took it for me while CRNM.

Congratulations Shabaz!

04/24/25 @Shahbaz Shaikh786 My process is completed today🥳🥳 - @Shahbaz Shaikh786

Congratulations -- I'm so happy for you!

When your naturalization is printed in the Diário Oficial da União, be sure to print out several copies of the Portaria .  Also request a Certidão Positiva de Naturalização here:

Most agencies will tell you that you don't need it and technically that's true (the Portaria from the  DOU will be enough) but it's still a valuable and useful document to have.

Your first stop should be at Electoral Justice to obtain your Título de Eleitor.  The people at Electoral Justice were some of the nicest I've met, and if you're a male under 40 and need a military exemption, they'll tell you where and how to get it.  Next stop is the nearest municipal office in your city to request your CIN, Carteira de Identidade Nacional.  This is replacing the old RG -- Registro Geral -- which is being phased out.  At some point the Polícia Federal will require you to return your CRNM (they sometimes forget, but they remember eventually), so you want to have your CIN ASAP.  Then you're ready to request your Brazilian Passport at the PF Passport Office.

In my experience, Electoral Justice is the only agency that gives you any guidance on next steps, and it's incomplete.  The Ministry of Justice will not advise anybody that you're now a citizen, so you have to take care of that yourself.  In particular, if like many °µÍø½ûÇøs your obtained your CPF and/or Carteira de Habilitação as a foreigner, the Receita Federal and DETRAN will continue to show you as a foreigner until you go tell them otherwise.  Extra copies of the Certidão Positiva de Naturalização are very useful for this, and for other places, like your bank.

@Shahbaz Shaikh786
My process is completed today🥳🥳
In 4 months time the analysis MJSP got done.
So it is possible to put application 1 month before you complete your 1 year in Brazil and also it can get done without biometrics, as I guess they took it for me while CRNM. - @Shahbaz Shaikh786

Do you already have an approval letter and your citizenship publised in official Diary? If approved, a copy of it will become available in your naturalizer-se account. If yes, please report here for the same